שרה מינץ וויתרה על קריירה מצליחה בתחום הבידור כדי למצוא משמעות רוחנית עמוקה במסעה כיהודייה

Shalom, everybody. Welcome once again to "Embracing the World". A show that brings to you stories of leading women, of women who have inspiring stories and lives that have traveled a path that teaches us many lessons. -Embracing the World Chaya Bisker- I appreciate you following, episode after episode, of all of you, and I hope you stay with us today here at "Embracing the World", because today I am very excited to introduce you to our guest, a woman who is beauty and talent, and you will see that she is also much more than that. A deep woman, with a very long journey of transformation, who

brings us a message that I am sure you will like. For me it is an honor, a pleasure, and a great joy. Welcome, Sarah Mintz. Hello, my friend, thank you very much, God bless. I'm here with you. -Thank you. Thank you for being here. It really is a very special moment, being able to have you here on the show, in front of this wonderful audience that accompanies us, uniting the heart of Latin America with Israel. Oh, how beautiful. You have told your story many times, I suppose, in front of several audiences, about how you stopped being the famous actress, internationally known, with so many soap

operas behind you, productions, so many stages, and you arrived here to be Sarah Mintz, in the land of Israel. Would you like to tell us a little about that journey? How was it, Sarah? Oh, my friend, precious. It's been amazing. Yes, I have told it many times. I have told my story a thousand times. But wow, God allows me to tell the same story in a different directions. May it reach every soul. And it has been beautiful. I am very happy for the life that God designed for me. Firstly, because when one comes into this world, one begins to recognize who is dad, who is mom, where I am, and kids

begin to cling to who they are. And then, when you are an adult, you say, "This is me." No? And obviously we say, "Well, what am I going to do? What good are my blue eyes? What is my blonde hair for?" And everyone bombards you with, "You should be a model, you should be a queen." That's what happened to me. I found myself in front of cameras, lights, everything. Well, then, what needs to be done is what needs to be done, without fear. God bless, I had a mom and dad that were always present, a home of great harmony, principles, values. Dad said, "God gives us everything. And one must accept

the ways of God." My mother taught me that every day we are born again, and we choose every day. With those tools I left, knowing that wherever I was standing, it was because God had placed me there. And I was always wondering, "Well, what else is there?" And I dreamed, and I dreamed. Not the artist, she also dreamed, obviously, about conquering the world and the television industry, but Maritza, at that time, that woman dreamed of a home, children, something deeper. And there came a time when the two could not live together anymore. I mean, my Soul managed to make its voice much louder. And

I let myself hear it. God puts everything in place for you. But one must also... The same way one chooses God, God chooses you. God chose my soul and said, "This soul is Jewish." Who knows what I have done in past lives? I arrived there, in a body that is not it. Where am I? I believe that listening to the voice of the soul gave me a lot of strength, and I also realized that the world was not only what can be seen from the outside. There was an internal world that was very difficult to feel. And I said, "I'm going to discover this world." And I met the soul of Sarah, and it was like getting

Sarah out of there. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. Sarah, you carried it with you from your childhood home, the principles that you still live by, which remain the same. Always standing by God. But, deep down, did you always want to be a mom, since your beginnings in television? Has the idea of being a mother always been with you? I think so. I think I really admired what my mother created. The work of parents is so important. And not just what my mother did, as if she were a warrior woman. She wasn't like "I make my home the way I want it." No. There was a very important detail, that

was how my mom and dad related to each other. Their relationship was, I believe, like a magic wand for me to feel complete as an adult. A relationship of respect, honor. I saw my mother, how she made room for my father. My dad was the king of the house, but she didn't lose her place. And my dad treated her like the queen of the house. It was a beautiful relationship. With, you know, firm, clear rules, no half measures. And I thought it was admirable, I thought it was beautiful. I said, "Wow, I see a happy woman, a happy mom." Because I didn't just see my mom as a mom. Sometimes us children

see mom as if she were just mom. No, I saw her as a woman who made herself pretty when dad was coming. Because my dad traveled a lot, and my mom got dressed up when... I asked, "Mommy, where are you going?" -"Nowhere. "Your dad is coming back home today." She would make herself pretty for my dad. When she went out to family parties, she just danced with my dad. She remained seated. I mean, I saw a woman devoted to her husband, and who had a nice home. My brothers and I always got along well. I remember my childhood, playing all the time. So, it was a point of reference for me. Wow, how nice.

Hoping to have that kind of home became my point of reference. Without a doubt. It seemed to me that a woman has a lot to give, and it was very important to me, she is the foundation of everything. However the woman, the mother, the wife is feeling, it's like watering a garden, and the whole garden is in bloom. I thought it was wow. -Wow. But during your years in the art world, on scenarios, productions, early mornings, late nights, fulfilling that role that you had as a model for a family, I guess it was difficult. How was the compatibility between the artistic world and following those

standards that you learnt at home? Well, see, at that point I thought, "I'm going to change the world." I'm going to be the first one. I'm going to prove that it is possible to be a professionally capable woman, satisfied, fulfilled, and a satisfied, fulfilled homemaker as well. Because I realized that both positions took their toll. I saw women, well, obviously in my field, in the acting sphere, happy women, with careers and everything, but their personal life were a bit broken, not so stable. But there were also women who were very stable, had strong homes, but professionally they were not

fulfilled as a woman, because they hadn't had that chance. And sometimes I saw adult women that were struggling, like, "I'm a mom, but I'm not happy." Or, "I'm working, but something is missing, I'm not happy." I thought, "I'm going to make it work." I'm going to show them that both things are possible. Did you make it? But I definitely noticed that I could not design a world that God had not designed. At that point everything came together, like everything in general. God has already invented a world, and invented some rules. I cannot create a world, because I am not the owner of a world.

God's creation is already perfect. As a woman, I said, "Wow, basics first." The foundation is very important. Like in any structure, the foundations are very important. And the basis of women, of women's realization, is definitely giving life. But giving life is not only giving birth to a child. Giving life comprises every element. So, wow, I said, "The acting industry, fashion, television, it's stealing me of a lot of things that I need to give priority to." Today I call it priorities. And that's what it is. So, I give it a place, and see where I can fit it, or find a way where I can combine

them, but it's not black or white. Because God has not designed things like this, black or white. I agree. Interesting, because most people who have decided on conversion, who come from other faiths and convert to Judaism, they carry a story of a broken childhood, of separated parents, they didn't have the wonderful model of a mom and a dad together, but in your case it is not like that. You had a wonderful home model, you had that desire, you had that intention. But hey, fate put you in the spotlight and on stages, and you couldn't live that passion for family that you are now living as a

Jew. And I would like us to explore what Sarah's role is like, already a Jewish woman, as a mother, as a wife. How is it? Tell us a little bit. I think that nothing is disconnected. We are all a bouquet of souls, and some of us have specific missions, I don't doubt it. One is not condemned by where one was born, one is condemned by the decisions one makes, because God gives us free will, and one has to accept the way of God. I think it gives you strength, you really become superman, when you accept the way of God. Yes, fortunately I had a home, let's say, a home like you just mentioned,

harmonious, good, but it was thanks to my mom's hard work. Because my mom didn't have it, you know? So, here at this moment, I know what I have in my hands, I know what I have in my hands, and with what my mother gave me, I come to bring something else. It is like having all the pieces form a superior harmony. I have dedicated myself to being a spiritual mother. Because I said, God, there is no debate, no intelligent debate. Do I want children or not? That question should not even arise. So, do I want a boy or do I want a girl? No, Hashem, as a partner in a relationship, he gives you a soul.

You have to have the responsibility to know that what you have is a soul, not just a craving for, like, chocolate or strawberry ice cream. So when I knew this is what was going to happen to me, the merit of receiving souls, and being able to take those souls and send them out into the world with tools, I decided I have to focus, I have to be aware in all aspects of my life, because he will not only give me a soul, he is going to give me a soul inside a body. So, I have to give it my all. Like when they say it is important to teach children to swim, but not only swimming in the physical sense,

we have to give that child everything he needs. He needs spiritual structure, we cannot send them into the world emotionally mutilated. Structure, positive psychology. They should know who they are, and, obviously, what is around them. It is up to me to work on my own qualities, be a woman who is constantly working on myself, on what it means to my husband, to my home, and obviously on what I'm going to give to my children. Nowadays, we see people who are totally broken, lost, emotionally empty. All these emotional problems they have, the root of the problem always comes back to the

relationship between mom and dad. And one of the things my mom always said to me is, one has to respect mom and dad. But I thought, "I have to listen to my mom, because she says that I have to respect her and my dad." I thought, "No, there has to be a higher-up." Because who orders my mom and dad? These are the things I was thinking. Who ordered my mom and dad? Deep down, there was a rebel inside you. I wouldn't call it rebellious, it was about searching for depth. Not accepting only... What they told you. -Exactly. See, I, today, I can say, I feel every day very, very happy to be able to

fulfill my life's mission. Wow. When do you discover this mission? -Every day. Yesterday I thought it was one thing, every day it becomes more complete. One changes all the time, because one is not just one thing. I, for example, was not going to remain a child my whole life. I had to become a teenager, I had to become a mature woman, I had to become a wife. Each stage takes you somewhere, but you have to stay awake to hear what God is telling you. Don't fight it. Why am I here? Why didn't this happen to me? And why did it happen to you? I already discovered that those things... I am not here

in this world to fight God's ways. Where are you now, living here in Jerusalem? We already know that the Jewish world, the religious people in Israeli culture, the Jewish world at large, people know you. I mean, you're not an unknown Sarah, no. You are Sarah Mintz, known for being a Jew. You've even had awards as one of the most influential Jews. How is that going, Sarah? do you live, Jewish Sarah, in Jerusalem? Oh, dear friend, discovering myself. I find it so sweet, where God takes you. I never dreamed of being an actress. And I turned out to become a big celebrity, with an artistic life,

with luxuries, with everything, with wow, wow, wow. And when I said, I'm gonna chase my soul, technology for my soul, like I heard somewhere, I thought, "There's a universe out there." I'm not going to stay here all my life being an actress. There must be something else. I didn't come into the world just to make soap operas. I'm going that way. And I said, "Sarah, turn off the lights and become unknown in this world. No one will know about you, Sarah. I'm going to discover your inner world." No, God, I said no. Sarah Mintz is famous. Sarah Mintz has become, without me trying, an influencer, a

speaker, a coach. I have become a teacher, teaching, being that point of reference. Well, now I know that I am an envoy of God. And I'm like an actor all the time, waiting for the action order. I am waiting for God's direction. But you know what? I'm surprised, because I never bought the story that I was famous and an actress. That's why my feet were always on the ground. I always recognized myself as... the girl in the San José neighborhood, in Barranquilla. Nothing else. Today I feel like a Soul and I say, "God, why did you send me here? Why did you do all this to me?" Well, I don't know.

But I still fulfill my mission and I return home. Like it is nothing. My friends are surprised. There are people who ask, "Sarah, do you wash clothes? Do you fold them? "Do you go to the supermarket?" And I am like, "Yeah, sure." Because they believe I am only an artist. And today I have to wash my clothes and hang them up and do everything. I cook, I do everything. Didn't the artist wash clothes? They think she didn't. No, but does an artist wash clothes? The artist, well, God bless, earns good money, and can have someone to help, because the artist has a very tough job. She doesn't have

time. But Sarah Mintz, people think, I don't know, she is someone very special. But I see myself as someone who is simply seeking God all the time. Trying to take advantage of my coming to this world, I choose God every day. But it's wonderful. It's wonderful how God inspires me to say the right words, how he puts me in unthinkable places. God almighty put me here. The audience that followed Maritza and the audience that follows Sarah, is it different? I think so. And if they are the same, it is because they have already evolved and transformed. But I think there are a lot of new people.

Lots. Lots of new people. Many people, many Jews too. Many people, although there are some... My audience, to put it in some way, is very varied. Very, very, very varied. -What is your audience like? I think, I don't really know, but from what I see in the comments they are people, both Jews and non-Jews. Observant Jews and non-observant Jews. And the non-Jewish part are people who admire my change, who admire this process. Although they are not Jewish, they're looking for a spiritual path. And they say, "Wow, it is possible to have this spiritual solidity. This woman has it all." Because

there are people who say, "You are more beautiful than ever, You are always happy." The people on the other side say, "Wow, You make mitzvahs look easy, you make... Wow, you are super proud of your Jewishness." Likewise, I also have people who are in the process of conversion, or they have already done giur. So, I'm like a rockstar, "Wow, Sarah is not afraid, she shouts from the rooftops, 'Yes, I did giur, so what?' She's not ashamed. Meanwhile I hide it." It's like that. I have that kind of audience, well, I can tell from the comments and the private messages that I receive, and the people I

meet on the street. But do you feel committed to that audience? Do you feel you have a duty to them, that they are waiting for something and you feel like, I have to create content, I have to talk to them, I have to listen to them? Do you feel a responsibility to that audience, or is it more like the nature of the life of Maritza, who is still a star, even when being Sarah? I don't see it that way. I think the one I owe myself to, and the one I have is God almighty And I am a Jew, My Jewish soul belongs to God, and I know that Kiddush blessings must be made to God, all the time. Obviously,

being an envoy from God almighty, he commands me and says, your life, because it is obvious, he created my life and made it that way. He made me famous, because there was no way for me to be famous. He made me famous. He got me where I needed to go, and he guided me to Sarah, because I'm going to fulfill a purpose that way. And that is making Kiddush to God, it is bringing people together, that's my relationship with people. I know what my relationship with God is, therefore, I don't feel like I have to give to people, because then I would feel like I have to be on social media, and I have to

become famous because people want me to be famous. No, no, no, no. I'm not here for people, do you understand? I am clear that I came to the world sent by God, and one of my missions is, obviously, to connect with people, no matter how much I want to hide, and I do so with such pleasure. Look, what interests me most is that God directed them to me, because not everyone gets from Sarah to me. I mean, they don't even know me, they don't even come close. I swear. My husband tells me, "Where are you going? Who called you?" And I say, "I don't know. Someone called and said they need something."

People say to me, "Sarah, I have this person who doesn't speak Spanish, and they are very sad, they want to talk to you..." Okay, tell me where they are and I'll be there. I mean, I'm willing, God sent me. I mean, I feel like God sends me to all these places. And I don't run away. I mean, I go and stay, "Here I am, here I am. God, where am I?" And even if I don't know Hebrew, even if I don't know English, I'm there. No, girl. God made me just be there. And it happened to me recently. Someone invited me to a class in Hebrew, They said, "Sarah, you should come." And I said, "Uh-huh, "But is the

class going to be in English, in Hebrew, in Spanish?" "It's going to be in Hebrew. People want to meet you and everything." And I was like, "Oh, no way I am going," but there I was. One feels like, "But what am I going to do? I'm going to do this face again..." Pretend I'm laughing. But I don't understand what you're saying. Because you feel kind of... It's not so comfortable, but then... If I don't know English, but God wants me there, then I'm going there. I consult everything with my husband, and my husband tells me, "Go, you'll see." And so I go. Oh, the things that happened that night.

Awesome. -Awesome. People, just by seeing me, it was like a complete class. And not just because I say so. People tell me, "Sarah, I can't believe I've met you." They said, "I can't believe it. I grew up with your shows, and I learned Spanish, but I've forgotten it. But having you here, I can't believe it." Well, that day God made me speak a little Hebrew. He told me what to say. Total shock. And I walked out of there and I was like, "Wow." If one thinks about it logically, the math doesn't make sense. But one has to forget logic, because God has divine ways. And it was a great night, not

only for them, but for me too. For me too. It was nice. And that's how I spend my time. Awesome. This woman is flowing. Things are coming to her, and she flows, just like you said, Here I am, here you are. And you flow, and it's very nice, because it is like a faith, and complete security. You feel "I have to be there," and you are there. And people can see that. And even though it hasn't been easy with Hebrew. No. How long have you been in Israel? -Three years. Tell us what the learning challenge has been like, learning the new language in this country. Yes, it has been a challenge. Not only

Hebrew, but English as well. I lived in the USA for 16 years and I didn't speak English. I don't know, but one day I thought about the benefits of not knowing languages and I found plenty. And I felt so happy. I said to Him, "Oh, God, you really know how to do it." God bless, on the day you decide, it will happen, but I do not lose-- But you're already doing classes in Hebrew. No, not in Hebrew, but I'm doing it. No, not at all. -But you talk a little. No, but I am staying that way, because a lot has been gained by not speaking it. It's just that sometimes God gives you things that are not

there, because there is a benefit too. What has been the benefit? See, for example, the interaction between mother and children, and the family, for example. Sure, I see my husband intervening in many things. There are times when men let moms do it all. But, of course, he notices, so he intervenes more. So, there is more of a bond between the children and their father. For example, they, obviously, they accompany me to attend medical matters, things relating to the kids. When they get sick, "Dad." They look for dad when they get sick, I think that's nice, because dad solves it. The children

also realize that mom, being in this country, even without having knowledge of the language, she doesn't get stranded. -No. They see that mom did it, and how did mom do it? I mean, they see that their mother can manage, she does not fall short, she asks for help. She is resourceful. I think that they, you know, as a child you come to a conclusion. They are seeing their mother, God put me here, so there is a faith. They understand the benefits of language, because they have to speak Spanish with mom. And they speak it. -And they speak it. So, whatever, I say, "Look, God, how beautiful. "Look,

he made that person perform a mitzvah. He helped me, you see?" Sometimes one is there to help the other fulfill a mitzvah. So, maybe, the fact that I don't speak the language, and someone who can help me with Hebrew and translation, they are fulfilling a mitzvah. So, the kids learn this. It has given me arguments to give a complete class to my children. I mean, my husband is also like, "Wife, how did you do it?" They were the kind of thing one says. "See, God helped me." So, of course, he also strengthens his faith. That meant a lot to me. I mean, it's not Sarah who does it, no. God puts me

there. I mean, one learns a lot. Incredible. -Homework too. I watch my husband do homework with the children. Torah homework. So I say, "Wow, my husband is here." So there's a lot to benefit from not speaking the language. Obviously, when one is in class, and one feels like an ant, and I think, "Sarah, run away, run away," and tears come out, I feel like maybe I am fixing my pride, my arrogance, because one does not know everything. Do you know how it feels not to know the language? Feeling small, feeling like you are, pardon the word, stupid. But I think, "No. "I know nothing, God knows

everything." But I have made it work. I have seen this woman in supermarkets, in the mall, in the restaurant, and that charm and that smile, and that way of approaching people with authenticity, and with the Spanish of Barranquilla, I don't know how, but you break the barrier of the practicality of the Israeli, where everything has to be quick. And that's amazing. Because you carry that authenticity, also, in a certain way, in your limitation with the language. And that helps you. And she is a woman who, as she is telling us, looks at the positive side of every situation that happens to her

in life. That part is very interesting. But since time is short, I want to go deeper, Sarah, and talk a little about your role as a teacher. You are a teacher. And that is an amazing thing. Wow. -You are a Jewish teacher. You are a teacher. Sarah, what is the experience of being a teacher here in Jerusalem? It's amazing. Oh, I'm so happy with that. It is a feeling that cannot be bought. I believe that the greatest happiness a human being can feel is fulfilling the purpose for which he was created. Because it's a wow that has no limits. When I'm teaching, I disconnect from the world. When a

class ends, I say, "Wow, Am I here? What street is this?" It's like recognizing where I am. But the most beautiful thing is when I feel that it is not I who is talking. I feel like it's God who is speaking. The fact that I read a text and God makes me see beyond what the words say. And when I'm talking, wow, because I can see people's eyes. I'm not just teaching a point of view, but I also, as a coach, what does all of this add to your life? Does it transform you? So, I make them talk. I'm giving a Torah class, whatever, and I guide people, it's like guiding, it's like picking up a child,

like when I held my children's hands, and told them to come over here. I mean, it is to guide and it is to transform. Because I always say, we can no longer consume spiritual entertainment. Because people come to a Torah class and they're like, "Wow." And they come out of there, and they are still the same person. Spiritual entertainment. I mean, a Torah class has to take you to another level. It should change your internal wiring. If you're wired like that, you should process it, digest it, like that. I mean, it can't be like that. So, God makes me bring out everything he put in me, and

that's a way I express myself, really, the relationship between two people. I think I'm doing a wonderful thing there. And that is my great talent, not only acting, crying, shouting "Bing, bing," like the villains did. But I feel like this is another thing, it's like turning on a fire. Did you know you had that talent? Did you know that part of yourself? No, I got to know her little by little. It was like God knew how to give me the exact word to help a person. And it was like that, little by little. That's why I said, "Wait, no. I should study positive psychology, emotional intelligence. I'm

going to go into coaching, and I'm going to also teach Torah." And that's when I said, "Wait." And right now as a teacher, teaching, or when I give a class, or when I'm teaching the girls who are doing the refreshments, things come out and I'm like, "Wow." I feel wow. -Wow. Well, that's really wow. -God bless. And what you said about emotional entertainment is very interesting because it is very common for people to consume, maybe, I don't know, a show, Torah content, or they go to the synagogue, and their transformation is not very deep, what those kinds of content can do. What is that like

for you? A woman who changed her life, who left everything behind, who transformed, who lives it with such conviction, with such strength, from her own authenticity, what is it like to see that people see it as entertainment? Well, I can only observe it, I can't judge or say "Don't." Everyone has the power to choose, a tikun, you have to do that, I didn't come here to judge, but yes, every time I have the opportunity to say a class, being in front of a camera, or in an interview like this, one takes that chance to talk, because someone might learn, someone might understand. People think that

one pours a little water in a container and it is already full. No, it's just drop, drop, until it reaches a point where it overflows. Some people may listen to you, and suddenly, boom! It becomes full. It can happen. There are more proactive people, who say with all intention, "I'm going to listen to that class and I'm sure it will click." They know its purpose. So when you are aware, it is different. Awakening your consciousness, being present. You get elevated, but it is very important that we truly reveal who we really are, because we are very confused. What do you mean? Because the truth

is one, the Emet. And the truth comes from God almighty. And God chose us. We Jews have a purpose in this world, we Jews have a specific job, just like the president commands the consul of any country, who has a specific purpose, in Brazil, in Colombia, he has a specific purpose. We, the Jewish souls, have a specific purpose in this world. The thing is, we get confused because there are times like, do you remember that Eve sinned because she thought it was pretty, and felt attracted? We see, we feel and we act. So, we get confused, we think there are many truths. Even I can define my own

truth. And we think that we know the way. So we get lost. But deep down, what is each person looking for? Being unique. That's the truth. I want to be the protagonist of a soap opera, but I don't want to be like so-and-so or so-and-so. I want to be a television host, or a teacher, there are many teachers, but there is no one like Sarah Mintz. You know what I mean? So what do we do? We imitate everyone. But what about us, what about what God almighty says? Not only seeing him as a king, as a father, as God. We realize we found everything in him. And by following his law, his presence, each can

rescue their own individuality. Because no matter how much I want to, I can never be Chaya. And we have heard this many times. But it requires depth. As you say, let's go deeper. Let's go deeper. We all always want more. We want to find out the source, where the essence is. So we are left with our branches with flowers, very ornate, very pretty, but there is nothing inside. And that kills us. That kills, that saddens. I think there are more people who are depressed because they fail to express themselves. Imagine a cup. A cup, if it was made to serve coffee and they never put coffee in it,

how is it going to feel? That's what we're all looking for. At some point we are searching, but we don't know what we are looking for, so we stop looking and get distracted along the way, and we start acting like puppets, or we start making a copy of the copy, so nobody ever reaches the truth. And when someone tries to, they get bullied. When someone tries, it's ridiculous. When someone tries, they're crazy. When someone tries, but then, after that there is nothing. After that, there is nothing left. The only thing left is the Truth. Lies have many faces. There is only one truth. I agree.

Sarah, if you had the chance to talk to those people who feel indentified with what you are talking about, what would you tell them? How to get out of this lukewarm water? How do you take the first step and really say, "I am a Jew, I'm going to be what it means to be Jewish"? As you say, a cup is a cup, may it be used as a cup. What would you say to those people who are watching us today and identifies with your message? In two minutes or one? In two minutes or one? How long do you want it? We are back to the same thing. Things need to be redefined again. Because we hear... "I'm Jewish, but

not religious." You know what I am saying? - It's very common. So the definition of... Let's get back to what God says. Let's go to what God almighty said when he gave us the Torah. Let's see, where are the Jews who are Jews but not religious? I mean, where are the conservative Jews, the reformists? And I will give them the Torah. As Abraham Cohen, in one of his classes, he's a Rabbi from Mexico, says, "The Torah gives you responsibility." People are like "I want to be a mom." And I want to be a mom and I want to have a house and all that, "=but I don't want to stop partying. So, I leave the

kids with a babysitter, let the nanny take care of them, I'm leaving." That is, it requires... -Responsibility. Responsibility. I mean, you're already married. You are no longer the little boy who has to go from flower to flower or who has to go partying. I mean, you have a responsibility. You have to find a job. You have to provide support at home. You have to be a present father. And there are people who don't want commitment and run away from it. They don't have a home, they don't have a job, responsibility. So we start making up new definitions. That is why today we have to say, "I am

Jewish and I also practice." But we must begin to see Judaism not as a religion. Because religion is always on the sidelines. We have the main dish, but what can we get on the side? I have a steak, but I can put some chips on the side, or maybe a little salad. It varies. No, no, no, no. It should be something integrated. "We are married, but don't respect me all the time. Only for a little while." People want everything. They want a husband. "I want a husband who is present, who will invite me to dinner." No, that's what a boyfriend does. "Ah, so husbands won't? Then, no." Ah, half-heartedly.

Our commitment to God is half-hearted. But we do want God to give us everything. There is a duality, something that has been passed down from generation to generation, for whatever reasons. But when one accepts, and knows and understands God almighty, there can be no doubt about that. It is what it is. It is like a child. My mom is my mom. The child asks his mother to love him, that his mom give him food, that his mom take care of him. That he feels protected by his mom. How come my mom, being my mom, doesn't give it to me? He doesn't understand it. A child doesn't understand. That is why God

gives us that, so that we can interact in this world, but our relationship with God is as a king and a father. Our father, our king, that is, he is our god, he is our father, we recognize him in every Rosh Hashanah. Living fully in my relationship, knowing that I have a soul, that I have a body, which is also sacred, and that every act that I do is From the skies. I mean, understanding these kinds of things can take generations, it may take years, even different stages, like mine, to understand it. I sometimes face things and I always say, "I have come a long way, I have walked a very long

road, and this is my chance to be a complete soul, to give honor to God almighty every day." I will not miss my chance to be a whole soul again, at all levels of the soul. Wow, Sarah! -Soul, spirit. Soul, getting dressed, getting dressed is an honor, it is also a spiritual act. There is nothing separate, because the Torah, and the Mitzvah and I are one. We learn it in the Parasha when they teach us laws. What are they? There are laws that are laws in themselves. Mishpatim, there are laws in themselves. There are other laws that remind us of Shabbat. Yes, we come from that. But there are some

we don't understand.. We do not understand them. But that doesn't mean they don't come from God, nor that they do not exist. I mean, that's when you say, "I am a part of God." Going against God is going against myself. I mean, we live in a world which is not God's in every sense. And it has to be expressed in everything that you are, with all the gifts that God gives you. So, that's work. That's not so easy. That's not a magic wand. I think that I, I mean, I reached this point by walking. But you get to a point where it's almost like, you have to break all those transgenerational burdens. You

also have to stop, at some point, thinking your thoughts do not come from God almighty, it comes from an aunt, a grandmother and great-grandmother. And that is very hard. -It is very hard. It's very hard because it's going against my grandmother, because my grandmother thought that way, and she suffered this and that. Do I make myself clear? -Totally. But God almighty if one arrives there, that is why the study of the Torah is very important, Chaya. And I would tell everyone this: study the Torah. Because by studying Torah we get to learn God almighty and his ways. Because this is not just

about believing or not. Why do I not kill? -It's a job. I don't kill, it's not because it doesn't look good. Like, if it looks good someday, I might kill. It's not like I don't steal because I don't want to. I changed. I don't steal, because God says no. Not even if I could. If God tells me to steal, I steal. Well, God tells me no, so it's no. It is about living in a single truth. So that is breaking out of a mold that is not mine, because my mold has to be that of God almighty. Well, it's a very powerful message, and also a woman that is whole. A woman that is whole. And I feel very honored

that we shared this space here, in Hidabroot, to hear what a one-note woman has to say, with your beauty, with your talent and with your mission, which clearly has to do with the people of Israel and with the Torah of God. So, since time is running out, unfortunately, I have to thank you for having accompanied us, for having come here with your impetus, with your strength, to share this powerful message, and I hope it reaches many people around the world who need to listen to it, and I hope this is not the last time but the first, and we can continue talking in this room, and with this

wonderful audience who accompanies us today. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did, this wonderful woman, a one-faced woman, strong, beautiful, Jewish, like all of you who are watching us. Thank you and see you next time.