"הציוויליזציה המוסלמית מאמינה במלחמה ובמוות": ריאיון עם ד"ר פרנסיסקו גיל ווייט

Muslim civilization does not believe in peace. There's no peace with Egypt. You have a state of war. The peace agreement is not worth the paper it was written on. Not innocent, but they are victims. Once you become a monster, you're no longer innocent. You're a victim of that system. They're they're turning you into a monster. Those people have been completely poisoned. And the only people who can save the Arab Palestinians are the Israeli Jews. Hamas is the biggest believer in the ethics of the Israeli Defense Forces because they know that you believe in life. They have a policy of human

shields. I know you want to live in peace. Shalom. Shalom. But not all peoples believe in peace. But your question, can you live in peace with Islam? The answer is no. Because Islam chooses war for us. What you need is peace through strength. You won't have cultural peace, but you will have geopolitical peace. If this generation does not defend the West, the West will disappear. Dr. Francisco Gil White UCLA. Hey,ch. as some years ago about uh over 20 years ago it it dawned on me I finally understood uh what anti-semitism is. So for the long for all my life I understood anti-semitism to be

hatred of Jews which of course it is but uh what I understood when I started studying the Arab-Israeli conflict uh which I began to study because I had a an abiding interest in racism more generally. Um, so when I arrived at the University of Pennsylvania as a young professor, um, I started, uh, studying the Arab-Israeli conflict, uh, because that was one of the main topics at the think tank where I had been hired. And um when I when I started studying the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict and the and the behaviors of the Arabs and on on the one side and the behaviors of the Zionist Jews

on the other side and so forth, um I was struck by the fact that I found almost nothing to criticize in the Zionist movement in the behavior of the Zionist movement. it it seemed like an ethical movement to me. And on the other hand, I could see many things to criticize in the behaviors of the Arabs and the ideology of the uh Muslims and so forth. And and I I I began to ask myself, where does anti-semitism come from? Like why if these people are behaving better than us, why do we hate them? Right? Where do we get the justification to hate the Jews? uh when it the more I studied the issue, the

more it seemed like Jewish culture and civilization had been a blessing uh uh for the West. So where did this hatred come from? Um and the more I studied this this issue, the the more I began to understand that anti-semitism is a tool of uh the totalitarian bosses to impose slavery on everybody. Uh so uh when when that became clear to me, I understood that fighting anti-semitism is not a charity to the Jews. It fighting anti-semitism is my self-defense because the totalitarians are going to turn me into a slave. Right? So, so if I want to protect myself and I want to protect my family, my

tribe, my nation, my country, my west, my western civilization, then uh I understood that that I have to begin with the defense of the Jews because that's the strategic fight for the survival of Western civilization. uh my my analysis of western history has made made it very clear to me that every single time that some power elite is oppressing the Jews or expelling the Jews or murdering the Jews uh at the same time what that same power elite is doing is it is enslaving all of the go all of the non-Jews so uh fighting against anti-semitism is the same thing as my western self-defense. That's

how I understand it. So, uh, what happened was I was at the University of Pennsylvania teaching. I started doing research on the Arab-Israeli conflict and doing that research I found that the founding father of the Arab Palestinian movement uh a man by the name Hajamin Al Husseini the former MUI of Jerusalem um so he's the founding father of the Arab Palestinian movement but also uh the guy who organized the death camp system together with Adolf Hikman for the German Nazis in World War II. So the the founding father of the Arab Palestinian movement is also the butcher of the European the Nazi

butcher of the European Jews. Um so when I when I understood that uh the the next thing I I quickly studied was why didn't I know about this? Why was it necessary after getting my PhD to do my own research to find this out? Like why wasn't this famous? Right? And I I found that um uh around 1968 more or less is the last time that anybody mentioned in mainstream academia or the mainstream media the topic of Hajamin al Husini was it submerged for for decades. Uh so uh it's uh my understanding of ethics is if if you see something that is wrong, it imposes a responsibility on you to fix it if

it's within your means. Right? So I'm I'm I'm a student of racism and uh uh ethnic conflict. That's my my corner of the academic world. That's what I got my PhD in. I was working at a think tank um to study ethnopolitical conflict. That's what the purpose of the think tank. I was there at the University of Pennsylvania to teach about the psychology of racism and ethnic conflict. You know, so this is my job. So what I can see is that there is this gigantic gap in everybody's understanding of the Arab-Israeli conflict because nobody is talking about Husini. Somebody has to say it. I saw it. I

have to say it. So I I I wrote an article where I explained the whole history of the Arab Palestinian movement, everything that Husini did, and then uh during during World War II, murdering the European Jews, organizing the death camp system, uh recruiting thousands of Bosnian Muslims and Kosovo Muslims to giant SS divisions, Hinrich Himmler's SS divisions. um he participated in Nazi propaganda. He a horrible person. And when the war ends, Husini becomes the the um what would you call the godfather of al- Fatak. So he mentored Yasar Arafat, he mentored Mahmud Abbas and a few other adolescents

in the 1950s and and created alatak which later became which later ate the PLO. It swallowed the PLO. Uh so so PLO FATA the uh is the organization that the Oslo process then introduced into Israel into militarily strategic territory of the Jewish state. Right? So uh I I I saw this structure. I I s I said well so the Jewish state was created to protect the Jews from genocide to protect them from Nazis. And what did the American Oslo process do? It it took the organization that had been created by Husini, the Nazi butcher of the European Jews, right? An organization created to kill Jews and

they put it inside the Jewish state which was created to protect the Jews from Nazi genocide. So I was like, well, this is this is an attack on Israel. Somebody has to explain this. So I explained it and the consequence of publishing this article which I published in Arut Cheva in in Israel national news uh is that they fired me from the University of Pennsylvania. Yes. Completely because the the understanding I had about how academia is supposed to work is that uh the university is supposed to be interested in truth. all kinds of truth, mathematical truth, uh uh physical truth, chemical

truth, historical truth, right? So, so I thought well first of all I expected people in my think tank which was a think tank to study ethnopolitical conflict and which was especially interested in the Arab-Israeli conflict and the Oslo process. Right? I expected people there to be very interested. Wait a minute, we got it wrong. Uh we pil fat is the Nazis the I mean we well how do we fix this or we have to no no they were very upset that I was saying this and uh they said to me this is amazing. They said to me that my documentation was impeccable because I I told them, "Look, if when they

started pressuring me and even threatening me, uh, I said to them, uh, if if I if I said a lie, if I if I made a mistake, if I exaggerated any of this, um, show me the documentation that corrects what I published and tomorrow I will retract myself in public. I have zero interest in telling lies." Why would I do that? Um, and they said, "No, no, your your documentation is impeccable, but you can't say this. And if you insist on saying this, you have to get yourself another job. Shalom. Shalom. So the Jewish people is a people organized around a law, the law of Moses that was born in a slave

revolt, right? So the Israelites were the slaves of the king of Egypt and uh a revolutionary leader appeared to lead them to freedom. That's Moses. Uh and when the slave revolt succeeded and the slaves found themselves in freedom in the Sinai desert, they received a new law which is the law of the liberated slaves. the the point of the law is to organize society so that nobody will be oppressed the way they were oppressed in Egypt. Right? So so uh now you can live in peace with your brothers and sisters uh and uh in freedom. And the reason you see shalom everywhere in Jewish civilization, you

greet each other and you say goodbye by saying peace, right? Is that peace is the ideal. the the universal brotherhood is the ideal of Jewish civilization which is why it has been so import such an important influence on on westerners right but not all peoples believe in peace right so so you can have a people organized around war uh and that was the case for example of the ancient Greco Romans so the ancient Greco Romans worshiped war they had gods of war uh they uh went to war as a basic uh component of their political economic organization. It was not security, it was economics, it was

politics. So they would go to war every spring so that they could uh steal some of the people from other cities. They would bring them back as slaves. Those they didn't kill, they would bring back as slaves. They would steal the property uh of of other societies and their land, right? and and this was considered good. It was considered uh worthy. They had prizes. So, for example, the Romans uh the the biggest decoration you could get from the Roman state was called the triumph. And if you were given a triumph, you if a general gets a triumph, then he gets to dress as the god Jupiter and drive

around in a chariot around the city of Rome and people throw flowers at him and you know confetti and this kind of stuff. And um this highest decoration that you can get in the Roman state was was not simply given to a Roman general who won battles. You had to kill more than 5,000 enemies in a single battle to get the triumph. So So what they were what they were um rewarding was butchery, bloodshed. Okay, this this was their value. Killing was a value for the Greco Romans. This is why the the Romans their equivalent of going to the movies was to go to the uh uh uh coliseum. uh to watch

innocent human beings be eaten alive by lions or tigers or else they would force them to fight to the death as if it were a cockfight and this to the Romans this was fun. Okay. So this was entertainment right? So it was a psychopathic culture that believed in in murder, pillaging in war, right? But this happens. We have cultures organized like that. Uh Islam is one of those cultures. So Islam divides the entire planet into D al-Islam and D al-Islam means the house of Islam. That's where the Muslims are already the government. Dhar is the part of the planet where the Muslims are not yet the

government. Dalhar means the house of war. So the Muslim cosmology divides the entire planet into the place where Muslims already rule and where they don't and where they don't that's where the Muslims have to bring war because the the uh entire culture of Islam is that if the infidels as they call us the people who have not yet converted to Islam Islam by the way means submission right so the people who have not submitted to the Islamic system those people must must be killed if they will not convert. So, so Muslim civilization does not believe in peace. This is why you don't see the word

peace anywhere in Gaza. Muslim civilization believes in war and it believes in death. The leaders of Hamas, we have videos of the leaders of Hamas speaking to the Arabs in Gaza, telling them, "Our enemies believe in life, but we believe in death." They say it explicitly and they think that's why why they're going to win because they believe that your belief in life makes you weak and they manipulate that. Right? So because they know that you believe in life, they have a policy of human shields, right? You have to the when I speak to people who are confused about the Arab-Israeli conflict, I

often talk about human shields. And what I tell them is look, the human shield policy of Hamas cannot work. It makes no logical or tactical sense unless Hamas is convinced that the Israeli Defense Forces are ethical. Hamas is the biggest believer in the ethics of the Israeli Defense Forces because if Hamas did not believe that the IDF will do everything possible to spare the lives of Arab civilians, they would not use the human shields policy. It would serve no purpose. The only reason human shields gives Hamas a tactical advantage is that they are that the IDF is protecting those Arabs. And

that's why they use it. So to answer your question, can can can you live in peace? I know you want to live in peace. Shalom. Shalom. We we uh Jewish civilization tries to produce peace. I understand that. But your question, can you live in peace with Islam? The answer is no. Because Islam chooses war for us. There's no peace with Egypt. You saw this already because when when the IDF controlled the uh Philadelphia corridor on the border with Gaza, it was more than 150 tunnels were discovered between on the Egypt Gaza border and those tunnels were being used to bring weapons into Gaza, supplies

for Hamas, to move uh terrorists in and out, to bring the hostages out. so that they can't be rescued. All of that stuff is happening on the Egypt Gaza border. That is an act of war. Uh there have been other acts of war recently. There have been um uh military exercises designed to prepare an invasion of Israel in the Sinai which is supposed to be demilitarized according to the peace agreement signed in 1979 between Manak and Beggan and Anar Sadat. Right. So so that's also an act of war. Now when when a peace treaty is violated, war begins, that's a definition. If if two two countries signed

a peace treaty with certain conditions and those conditions are violated, you have a state of war. That's the definition. So Egypt has been violating the peace agreement for a long time, for a very long time. So there has been a real state of war with Egypt for a long time. The peace agreement is not worth the paper it was written on. And you should have expected that from the beginning because in Islamic Jewish prudence in the system of law of Islamic civilization, the uh great Islamic jurists that are highly respected within uh uh Muslim culture, they have taught for centuries that Muslims

can lie to infidels. There is no sin. This is the takia principle. So, so when they sign a peace agreement with infidels, they have no intention to honor it. And therefore, it makes zero sense to sign peace agreements with him. That doesn't mean peace makes no sense. If they choose not to attack, you can live in peace. But to sign a peace agreement thinking that it means something, that is ridiculous. What what what you need is peace through strength. So because the one language that the Muslims do understand is strength. So if if you win the war, they will understand that it is not in their

interest to attack you. And then you can at least have geopolitical peace. You won't have cultural peace, but you will have geopolitical peace. Well, not necessarily till the end of time because we can we can establish a relationship with the Muslim world that has a similar structure to the relationship we had with the communist world. Okay? So, the communist world wanted to destroy the free world. They were totalitarians, right? the the Iron Curtain was the the barrier that separated communist totalitarianism from the free West, right? Uh and they wanted to make us communists. So they wanted

to destroy our freedoms and our rights, right? But our relationship to the communist world was that the west was a refuge for the people who were slaves of the communists who wanted to escape slavery to become free in the west. Right? So the the demonstration that the that the Soviet world that the communist world was a world of slavery is that people were trying to escape it. So for example uh athletes uh uh Soviet athletes would come to compete in the west they they had to have policemen uh making sure that they didn't escape that they didn't defect as we used to say right do you know about

this you're a young person but but but this was happening okay in the cold war athletes from the Soviet Union would travel to different parts of the west to compete and it was very common that they would escape and and seek asylum in the West, right? And we gave them asylum because these were escaped slaves. So, we protected them. We didn't return them to the Soviet Union. In my opinion, the relationship between the West and Islam and the Islamic world should be similar to the relationship we had between the West and the Communist world. So the people who are slaves of Islam, who want to

escape that slavery, who want to come to the west to become Westerners, welcome. We should be a refuge for everybody who wants to escape Islam. That's not the same thing as importing jihadists. That's the opposite, right? So we shouldn't be letting jihadists in. They should be forbidden entry. And we shouldn't be allowing the jihadists to build mosques in the west. Mosques should be forbidden. Islam is an anti-western ide ideology. And what they preach in mosques is the destruction of the west. It makes no sense for us to allow Islam to be practiced in the west. That makes no sense. But we

should allow people who want to escape Islam to take refuge in the West. That makes perfect sense. Perfect sense. And the more people in the world of Islam see that they can escape to freedom instead of seeing that we are helping jihadists establish a beach head in the west. Right? That's the wrong kind of relationship. Right? If we if we create the right kind of relationship, we will be contributing to the dissolution of Islam. Yes. But that that is because the boss the people who run the west the bosses in the west they have been financing jihadism. The people who are the government in the

west are not pro- western. They are pro- jihadi. They want to destroy western democracy. They are not our allies. To see this all you have to do is to remember where did the world jihad begin? World Jihad, the modern post-war world jihad began in Iran in 1979. Okay. Who set that movement in motion? That was the US government. Jimmy Carter removed the sha in Iran and installed Humeni. Carter did that. Jimmy Carter did that. And then the next president, Ronald Reagan, in a scandal that is called the Iran Contra affair was in secret sending billions of dollars in armament to the same Ayatollah

Humeni. Okay. So Carter removes the shop, puts Humeni in power, and then Reagan sends billions of dollars in weapons to Humeni. That's how the world jihad got started. The US did it. Okay? And guess who? Guess who trained and armed Kumeni's guerillas in Lebanon in the 1970s? Who? Plo Fatak, what we now call the Palestinian Authority. Yaser Afat and Mahmud Abbas trained and armed Ayatah Humeni's guerillas in Lebanon in the 1970s. And after the revolution triumphed, Humeni invited Yasa Arafat and Mahmud Abbas and their friends to Tehran and and Poof Fatak created the terrorist organizations of

the new Iran. That's the organization that the US bosses, the US presidents forced Israel to accept in militarily strategic territory of the Jewish state when they created the Oslo process. So this entire process is being directed by the western elites. If you close that spigot, if we take back our western democracies, if we if we take democracy seriously and we kick them out of power and and we close that spigot, jihadism will die quickly. Well, what I would say first of all is that uh Israeli policy cannot be decided in Washington. Uh the Jews have to be able to have their own country and

their own foreign policy. uh and therefore uh the prime minister of Israel cannot be a servant of the United States. He has to be a leader of the Israeli Jews. It's not the same thing. No. If the if the Israeli prime minister is asking for permission to the to the US president in order to make decisions, then he is not the leader of the Israeli Jews. He is the servant of the US bosses of the same US bosses that brought the Nazis and the Iranian jihadis into militarily strategic territory of the Jewish state. You can't ask permission for those you can't ask those people what your policy should

be. They're trying to destroy you. So what the what the Israeli prime minister should do in my opinion is win the war. You have to win in Gaza. You have to kick Hamas completely out. And then you have to take control of all the institutions in Gaza, education, health, tourism, everything for for at least one generation because those people have been completely poisoned. And the only people who can save the Arab Palestinians are the Israeli Jews. You're the only ones who care. So you have to win the war in Gaza, expel the terrorists completely, kill anybody who resists because these people are

trying to kill you, right? Uh and then protect the Arab Palestinians because I do believe that the state of Israel has a moral debt with the Arab Palestinians because these people have been destroyed in their minds. They teach them from an early age to become Jew killers. Well, not innocent, but they are victims. Well, once you become a monster, you're no longer innocent. But they are victims because if if you are told from an early age that you have to become a Jew killer and your your parents are telling you that and your your school teacher is telling that and your government is telling

that, you're a victim of that system. They're they're turning you into a monster. And the state of Israel has a responsibility there because those terrorists became the government of the Arab Palestinians because the Israeli bosses let them in. The Israeli bosses in the Oslo process, they allowed these people inside Israel to become the government of the Arab Palestinians. So the state of Israel has to kick them out. Not only for the Israeli Jews, but for the Arab Palestinians. They have to kick the terrorists out. So my recommendation would be win the war in Gaza, destroy the terrorists and

protect the Arab Palestinians and the Israeli Jews by taking over all of the institutions in Gaza. And then I would say do you have to do the same in Judea and Samaria? You have to kick the uh uh so-called Palestinian Authority completely out of Israel uh and protect the Arab Palestinians by taking over all of their institutions at least for a generation. because if you don't, the poison comes back in and you can't protect anyone. And then you have to win the war in Lebanon. You have to liberate Lebanon. You have to liberate Syria allied with the Drews and with the Rojava Kurds in the north.

Uh uh and and you have to liberate Iran. The Iranians don't want this. The government they have, they don't want it. So liberate Iran. If you liberate those countries, you will have secure borders. everybody who takes a position uh about defending the west and defending Israel and the Jewish people uh against Islam is taking a risk obviously. So I mean I I I worry to a certain extent but Hashem will decide. I mean we this this generation if this generation does not defend the west the west will disappear and if this generation doesn't defend the west it will fall. So of course there are risks

but there is also the certain if we do nothing there is a certainty that uh uh my nephews and nieces and children if I produce children they will not have a a reasonable west in which to live that that's all going to be destroyed. So given that that's certain I prefer the risk of of doing my job in this generation. Well, I I appreciate that you're thanking me. Thank Thank you for that. But uh in reality, I think all Westerners should be thanking Israelis because you are on the front lines. I mean, you were a tank commander in Gaza. I'm a I'm writing articles. Okay. So I I I'm I I appreciate

that you're thanking me for my work, but in reality I am supporting you. You're the ones who are really on the front lines defending uh Western civilization. And in the name of all Westerners who understand, I thank you. Thank you very much.